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Blilericay Town Council Demo
Friday, 7th August 2026 at 2:30pm

 
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Guest 1 - 0:00:00
Guest 9 - 0:00:03
Well we looked at getting a dedicated full fibre line and it's about 200 and something pound a month and the council has said no.
But it may be a time to revisit that again.
Guest 11 - 0:00:14
I mean again, if you want to connect to your Wi -Fi to do it.
BT and Segcom.
Guest 9 - 0:00:17
This is running, the answer with doing the teams is a Wi -Fi.
Guest 7 - 0:00:23
Try again on the connect to the server.
I think you're right, you should go for that.
Guest 1 - 0:00:29
That interest.
Guest 5 - 0:00:31
Guest 1 - 0:00:32
We struggle with the internet some days.
Guest 9 - 0:00:34
We have to come in and reboot quite frequently.
School holidays are bad because everybody's at home on the internet gaming, the kids are off.
Guest 10 - 0:00:47
We always notice that sometimes we lose connexion and our feet really drop at half past three every day when the kids get home from school.
Guest 9 - 0:00:49
That's strange because we're right, there's no problems.
Guest 5 - 0:00:54
Yeah, probably, I don't know.
Yeah, there's nothing to that.
Yeah, it's really fast, I've got to be on board with it.
Yeah, if that's the case then we should up it.
Guest 13 - 0:01:14
Okay, so this is even just on the public available Wi -Fi.
Guest 6 - 0:01:16
And this is...
Yeah, that's true, that's the case.
So this is what the public would see.
Guest 11 - 0:01:24
This is even just on the public available Wi -Fi.
Guest 1 - 0:01:28
And this is...
Yeah, that's true.
Guest 15 - 0:01:35
So this is on the public available Wi -Fi.
yeah
Guest 1 - 0:01:37
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Guest 1 - 0:01:48
Guest 5 - 0:01:51
Jim's on top of Everest with his axe on
I think he's just...
Guest 1 - 0:01:59
Guest 6 - 0:02:00
I'm probably going to have a better broadband signal up there
I touched the screen as well
Oh that's really good resolution isn't it?
Guest 1 - 0:02:11
Yeah, so that's on these ones and then a few other ones.
That looks better than that.
Guest 5 - 0:02:16
So these ones will be half of a second behind.
If we take this, the problem stuff will be a bit higher.
Guest 11 - 0:02:23
That's a good resolution isn't it?
Guest 3 - 0:02:26
Yeah, so put that in the right position.
Guest 11 - 0:02:28
But yeah, this is what the public would see and then it's got the names of who's talking next to it.

2. Middle

Guest 12 - 0:02:42
and then if you do the next agenda point it will then in a few seconds it will come up
with the agenda items under here.
That's not the other side.
Guest 3 - 0:02:51
Guest 6 - 0:02:59
That's improving quality dramatically.
Guest 11 - 0:03:04
Guest 1 - 0:03:06
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
There's nothing.
Guest 3 - 0:03:21
There's nothing.
Guest 1 - 0:03:23
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Guest 6 - 0:03:31
They've got like double glazing in a big gap and then double glazing because there's a helipad for the hospital just behind the council meeting room.
So they were like yeah we can't have that interrupting every 20 minutes.
Guest 13 - 0:03:36
Guest 6 - 0:03:39
So yeah it's got the name of the current agenda item there and it'll also sort of stamp it down here as it goes along as well.
Guest 11 - 0:03:42
and then once it's all archived it will just all be in that side one but it was
Guest 9 - 0:03:46
Guest 6 - 0:03:52
still underneath tell them where they are in the meetings as well and yeah and
Guest 9 - 0:03:58
then if you're on this as it would be for the other meetings I'll just switch it to
one of the other views just so you can see in here.
Guest 13 - 0:04:06
Guest 7 - 0:04:08
and then switch up. So now I'm taking part, that's what taking part looks like.
Guest 1 - 0:04:11
So I'm at home, if I was a member of the public I would see that.
Guest 7 - 0:04:22
Yeah and this is just me switching through the views of what you can change it to see.
Guest 1 - 0:04:25
Guest 7 - 0:04:29
It would be the team's call, so you in the meeting won't really notice any difference
Guest 1 - 0:04:31
Guest 6 - 0:04:33
but for the actual public at home I'll switch it around again.
So in room.
I'm in the meeting but where do I see me in the meeting?
I haven't turned my video on have I?
No, no.
If I turn my camera on, what happens now when I'm talking?
So I now turn my camera on.
Yeah.
Oh, so yes.
Guest 1 - 0:04:54
So you'd be up like that.
Right, okay.
So yes, that's my camera.
So in terms of if you were holding your meeting this is what it would be looking like on that side of it.
Guest 7 - 0:05:04
And that's just pure teams settings isn't it?
Guest 1 - 0:05:07
Yeah so now you're getting the team so there might be three councillors across what they have.
Yeah, yeah.
And you're in the room because you don't need to see everybody in the room really.
No that's it.
You look across the table and down there.
Guest 7 - 0:05:18
Well we'll have you and you because we could probably sell.
Guest 1 - 0:05:21
Yeah, well no because I wouldn't be here I'd be at home.
So again, you can set teams however you'd like. I tend to think any more than 9 or 6 on screen as a grid gets too much and you can't really see anybody.
Guest 7 - 0:05:40
So you can have it on speaker view. So it would be, you'd have a list of all the Councillors and Hoos that actually speaking last would be nice and big.
But that's completely up to you. Give it a try and see how you'd go.
But that's purely teens.
Guest 1 - 0:05:51
You've got to wait Richard.
Nothing weird to say.
His watch doesn't necessarily change because it doesn't always show you in the room.
You can get it to.
So...
Yeah.
Yeah, you can do it.
But it's all within teens of how you want it to display in the room and...
Guest 7 - 0:06:12
Is this still being recorded?
Yeah.
Guest 1 - 0:06:14
So it can still be live streamed even though he's joined Hype.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's the same.
What the public assumes is what?
Guest 2 - 0:06:23
Guest 1 - 0:06:24
Is this. So I've left it on the mixed view.
Guest 7 - 0:06:27
So you've got the room nice and small down there, and then the person...
Guest 1 - 0:06:29
Sorry.
...who knows, and big. But it's up to whoever's operating to change.
Guest 9 - 0:06:38
So I'll flick through them a bit slowly and then you'll be able to see what it is.
so we're in a meeting we would have the and meet our documentation and
things coming up on the screens yeah is there a way that one screen would could
be left on what the public is seeing say the inn is that or would that just be a
case of having one on a mini computer logged in to the internet yeah live
broadcast on the back of the...
On the what?
If you wanted to.
Yeah, because there's a splitter in there which takes it from that feed and then passes
it out to all the others.
Guest 1 - 0:07:21
Guest 7 - 0:07:23
Yeah, but by default, the only thing that comes out of this box to go to the screens
is the laptop feed, so that would normally be the team's call. So it would be this. You
can, obviously, if you wanted to have the live stream put up, but it's about 15 seconds
Guest 1 - 0:07:39
behind it might be a bit... yeah computing... yeah I was just thinking so we can actually so that
whoever's in here can actually see what is going out and if it's all gone wrong
not relying on someone texting in from our member of the public who screams
upside down or... Yeah, I can only see up James' nosh plate or something.
Guest 7 - 0:08:05
Guest 1 - 0:08:07
Exactly. I mean, you could have a Teams meeting open like this with nobody joining it and then you'd be able to see the visuals of the room somewhere.
Because I'm guessing when you connect to these screens it's on someone's laptop who is going through the...
The clamps plugged in as you've plugged in. Yeah. It goes to all screens.
yeah and that's as we're meeting notes and items to be a food so you could yeah
if you wanted that one at that end to have another HDMI pull though when you
a separate one because that there's a speaker in there which saves that signal
at all the rest of the TV yeah the yeah so I suppose you'd have to have
Guest 7 - 0:08:52
somewhere into this one plug into that goes so this system wouldn't do that so
Guest 1 - 0:08:56
that we have something we have to look at separately yeah yeah yeah yeah can
you put your control screen in the flight case yeah can it be broadcast on
to like an iPad or something and then an exterior an external touchscreen so
that it would be in the corner it's conversations we've had in the middle and
then just the chairman or between the chairman and the and the clerk is the
control box with the whole screen that they can both get to start or mute yeah
it's a conversation we've had it's part of parcel of our big kits for them it
exists yeah what we do I haven't actually seen it work for them but it's
not to say one so yes it's a short answer so basically this is what the
So that's the exact same bit.
Guest 7 - 0:10:03
Guest 1 - 0:10:09
So that's the possibility. The trouble is, the way we built it is that with our main ones we have the full webcast software and then the tablet, and you can't have the tablet and something else's tablet running at the same time.
using the same web page right and so that is where the IT people will probably have to do some work
but it's been requested a couple of times so I will see if it's something that
Whoever's driving the system. Yeah, if that that is sitting either between the two of you so
the chair and
and the clerk both start stop or anything or sitting next to one of you
Is it normal for two people to be fiddling around or is it better for one person?
Yes, that's right. It's nearly always easier just for one person
I would say so because I've seen this meeting with Sanjanae and the head of planning
and he was doing something and she was doing something
and they're doing what they might
I know it's my fault, I understand what they were doing
but it really looked bad
it gets chaotic
I mean, I suppose it's just
once you start
unless you're doing a particular lead
right, it makes sense
Guest 7 - 0:11:23
you think the chairman should do it?
I'd quite happily do it
yeah, I suppose it just then means
Guest 1 - 0:11:27
because I'm guessing the chairman sits
one of these
it just means it's then sort of in the middle between you
Whereas if it's off to the side, it's not in the sort of chairs,
that are trying to deal with it.
I mean the chair is there to control the meeting.
I think it makes sense to be the technical, no.
Or the clerk, no.
They've found them and kept their eyes off the meeting.
I know.
It's the same distraction for the clerk as well.
How can you take something on the screen and try to take down what's happening to it?
yeah it's not in the way yeah can you sit there Jim as you cheque the
right can you turn the screen towards you yeah
have come down the side.
Ok, next item on the agenda.

3. End

OK, next. Done. OK. I think that's ideal.
That's probably a good way for the Chairman to move discussion on as well.
Yeah, it's changed, it's changed up here.
Yeah, your seat has Moses, LSU on the Teams meeting.
Yeah, you've vanished.
So yeah, it's completely up to you how you'd like to put it.
But I'd say that the only times you really should, so obviously there's the testing beforehand, which is typing with those guys,
it's really only if there is gender item changes, or if you are wanting to display something from a laptop to the public,
Guest 6 - 0:13:24
making sure it's on one of those four buttons down the side to change between the in -room view and whatever's on the screen.
Guest 13 - 0:13:29
Guest 6 - 0:13:31
So far the only concern I've come up with is the... we've got... we're not there yet
Guest 1 - 0:13:39
Guest 7 - 0:13:42
hybrid meetings because they're not legal yet but I think they're going to become legal
Guest 1 - 0:13:43
yeah I think a lot of them have got ground that basically they can attend but they can't make decisions
it's pretty hard places in England
Guest 6 - 0:13:50
Guest 11 - 0:13:52
yes you... therefore you're just a member of the public period
Guest 1 - 0:13:58
but I'm not quite with the view that the public get on that can we go back to the
so I've still got hybrid meeting going yeah I just want to see what the public
says because it's all the person. So if you're watching it like this then is that what you're seeing?
Guest 10 - 0:14:18
Yeah, member of the public watching. I put that up there which would be whatever you have on the screen
Guest 11 - 0:14:20
Guest 8 - 0:14:21
Guest 11 - 0:14:26
it doesn't have to be the team school, but your documents, whatever. This here on the screen, that is what the public would be seeing.
Guest 1 - 0:14:28
So they've got the...
Guest 7 - 0:14:30
It's hard to do this actually.
Guest 10 - 0:14:32
We can do this without the screen.
Guest 8 - 0:14:35
Yeah. They've got who's talking, the agenda, the live view from it.
And then...
And they'd just be watching along like that, and then it...
Guest 2 - 0:14:48
Guest 11 - 0:14:49
change it to remote for any of your text up on screen about 15 seconds later it
Guest 12 - 0:14:54
will change what's going up on here
Guest 3 - 0:15:00
can the public view on their telly or has it got to be a computer?
Right, so on there
Guest 11 - 0:15:03
It's a webpage but
Guest 6 - 0:15:06
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Guest 13 - 0:15:14
Guest 6 - 0:15:15
yeah you've basically got I'm sitting in the corner at the moment yes so that's
Guest 11 - 0:15:19
what the problem is see yeah so I'm in the corner and they've got the two other
because you're hybrids at the moment you're in the corner because you're hybrids yes
Guest 8 - 0:15:27
yeah but the others are still there oh that's that's okay yeah yeah that's why
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Guest 1 - 0:15:41
Because I was thinking of getting that, and it's all the person who's not in the meeting, and three little ones sitting there with his mug of coffee, and just thinking, oh, blah blah blah.
Guest 6 - 0:15:43
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Guest 11 - 0:15:53
It's not quite a team of basically two people, but I say if it is a home meeting, where there's not going to be displayed documents, or even if you do want to display documents, that's why we have those other, what we call the picture of the pitch room.
Guest 1 - 0:15:59
It's almost the person who's on the hybrid call, in other words you're displaying that.
Yeah give or take, yeah.
Guest 11 - 0:16:04
Guest 6 - 0:16:08
So can the person who's, because it's still quite small.
Guest 7 - 0:16:11
Oh yeah, you can go full screen and be what you want to watch.
It depends on the size of the screen.
Yeah, that's it, it's built to work on the phone.
Guest 11 - 0:16:17
Right, so they can bring it back out to that.
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So if Jim was chairing the meeting and driving it and he wanted to bring up documents from say a planning meeting we would go through quite a few documents, you'd have to do it on that screen there?
Guest 1 - 0:16:35
So the documents I'm guessing would be on the Clark's laptop and would be going to the screens.
if they wanted to show the documents on the webcast as well which you don't have to do
because you can just have the links next to the webcast but we wouldn't look at
themselves yeah the laptop would be going through this as my laptop is and
then they have to sort of say show it nice and big. So I was trying to do that with the volume of things that we have.
yeah but that's why i said it's quite unusual i'd say it's quite unusual i think a couple of people
Guest 11 - 0:17:15
on island do it they'll have constantly next to when they're talking like what's going on but
Guest 3 - 0:17:20
there's no need to do that if the documents are already next to the webcast and the members of
Guest 11 - 0:17:23
public and you're willing to put their own speed yeah there's no need to actually put it up on the
Guest 1 - 0:17:28
Guest 11 - 0:17:32
webcast that's really the only reason you'd ever put something so really there it'd be hybrid means
or a video you wanted to show on the web, or something like that.
Guest 1 - 0:17:37
We pre -load it onto the system before the meeting.
Guest 3 - 0:17:42
Guest 11 - 0:17:43
It's really the pass -through, the HDMI pass -through, this is built for doing the hybrid,
but if you wanted to show other things you can.
Guest 3 - 0:17:49
I wouldn't say it's something that, again, it creates an extra element of work that I don't think
adds anything to the meeting for the public.
At the moment, we have that the clerk has the agenda up,
Guest 6 - 0:18:00
Guest 3 - 0:18:04
and then we'll flick two documents that will be on the late screens.
Guest 6 - 0:18:06
So this will all have its own agenda, and we've not got the Clark's computer linking through to broadcast.
But if we wanted to put a document up that we're discussing onto the webcast,
Guest 3 - 0:18:18
Guest 6 - 0:18:21
we'd have to adjust the box to accept the input while we discuss it.
Guest 9 - 0:18:28
yeah yeah you just one of those four buttons yeah just so good because yeah
Guest 3 - 0:18:30
Guest 6 - 0:18:32
then again you can have training for chairman's yeah but you know we can't
have a good organisation whoever's the chairman we just have to take that as part of the role because the way I'm
Guest 11 - 0:18:40
Guest 1 - 0:18:43
seeing it is the clerk's got to make sure the minutes are right yeah you can't
have a clerk trying to do two things at once
but for a chairman it's relatively easy because the chairman's controlling the meeting
yeah and that's just another control on the meeting you know it strikes me as
being relative it's all part of controlling the meeting
it strikes me as the easy way of doing it personally
I think so
Guest 11 - 0:19:11
Dave's in agreement so we're fine
Guest 1 - 0:19:13
If she was going to object I'd withdraw something.
Guest 9 - 0:19:23
I mean the setting up is not too bad because thinking about it, both myself and Dawn always come up here early, we put the nameplates out, we put the signing sheet out, you know anything like that.
And then it's not the right shortening, it's just the push up in.
Yeah that is no problem setting up.
Guest 1 - 0:19:38
Yeah, I think you'll kind of get an idea about what you want to put through or what you want to put in through this.
You don't want to just do it how you've always done it.
And this is just a broadcast tool without necessarily worrying about what's going on in public.
Because for most of your meetings it will just be the video of you all discussing it and any of the documents and stuff you're looking at.
It will be on the webcast next to it, available for the public.
So I think definitely when you're first time out just go with that.
Don't try them.
Guest 11 - 0:20:06
If you want to add things to it every time.
Guest 1 - 0:20:09
Start simple just to get the hang of it and then we can get a little bit more complicated.
Guest 9 - 0:20:14
And then some councils have read the papers before they come anyway so why should they
Guest 5 - 0:20:17
be reading them on the screen anyway?
The public can look at the webcast presumably and look at the documents so just add an extra
thing to it.
Yeah.
Guest 9 - 0:20:30
Yeah, I'm thinking about things like planning because obviously looking at the planning that we've got
Broadcasting you look at it through you're talking about something
Guest 6 - 0:20:39
our spazzle and ones and
Guest 9 - 0:20:45
It's quite good because the officer talks for a while and it goes through all of the plan. Yes
You see them on the screen and then they take their turns. Yeah
Guest 6 - 0:20:54
Plus and minus is no rest of it and you you've actually seen what they're talking about
yeah I'm looking through when we look at it I'm you look through it yourself and
then you come to the meeting and you sit there thinking I didn't see that and can
we zoom into that and you see things in the meeting but you haven't seen first
time round but when you look at the Basildon planning meeting how many items
Guest 1 - 0:21:19
Guest 6 - 0:21:21
are on the agenda? Not many because they decide not to outside. You can do it like that when we've got 18
Guest 1 - 0:21:26
item 18 planning application on the agenda. It'd be four o 'clock in the morning before we finish.
Guest 6 - 0:21:37
I did during Covid sit through, it was a new chair and they hadn't ever run a meeting let alone
Guest 11 - 0:21:41
that hybrid one and I was helping basically in the background, sort of help them tell them when
Guest 3 - 0:21:48
Guest 9 - 0:21:50
things were streaming and what wasn't working and how to keep people out of meetings and things like
Guest 3 - 0:21:52
Guest 11 - 0:21:54
and they just let members of the public talk and wouldn't cut them off.
Guest 10 - 0:22:00
Guest 6 - 0:22:02
It was half past one in the morning before the nation was like...
Isn't that going against their constitution?
Guest 11 - 0:22:04
Oh yeah, yeah, that's a thing.
It's an imitate, don't they?
Guest 6 - 0:22:09
Guest 3 - 0:22:11
Yeah, it was only started at seven and it was just half past...
That's ridiculous.
It was a long night.
Guest 11 - 0:22:15
Someone's preaching to you.
I can't kick them out but I kept messing with them.
If this was a room, you'd just kick them out. It's the same idea. Like if they were talking when they weren't supposed to.
Guest 9 - 0:22:30
So can you do that? If you've got a member of the public, say where hybrid meetings are a thing, and they want teams, and they want to be a bit...
Guest 8 - 0:22:32
You can just get rid of that.
Guest 10 - 0:22:34
Guest 5 - 0:22:38
Guest 1 - 0:22:41
I'm not sure that we should allow members of the public on teams to come in.
My view is teams is a viewing thing. They want to talk, they're here.
Guest 11 - 0:22:53
At the moment, because it's illegal for them to do it at the moment.
Guest 9 - 0:22:55
Guest 1 - 0:22:57
Even when it's legal for councillors to come in, members of the public, you know it's a tool.
Guest 9 - 0:22:59
When the legislation was signed.
Guest 10 - 0:23:01
The legislation says they can do it.
Guest 1 - 0:23:03
Guest 6 - 0:23:08
The legislation says it can be a hybrid meeting, it doesn't define one way or the other.
It's open for... at least you can say...
I do believe...
Guest 1 - 0:23:17
I mean, that's the thing, I think the counsellors do it in one of a few ways.
Either they'll have it part of their consciousness, where they can...
Guest 11 - 0:23:22
Where you can change their say, they don't just do...
Guest 10 - 0:23:27
They can attend and be part of the discussion, and it will just count towards their attendance.
Guest 11 - 0:23:29
Other ones say they can go out of the discussion, but it won't count towards your attendance, which is up to them, I suppose.
Guest 10 - 0:23:33
And then other ones have said that you can't do anything.
Guest 3 - 0:23:38
Guest 11 - 0:23:41
So they definitely know they can't be part of the decision, like they're actually voting on anything, but they give you part of the discussion beforehand.
Guest 6 - 0:23:53
So, and for a handful of them, especially, I think West Sussex did it quite a lot, because they spread over a massive area, and a lot of their stuff's to do with Gatwick,
Guest 10 - 0:23:55
Guest 11 - 0:23:57
and the professionals they bring into meetings can't necessarily get their after -work from Gatwick to make the meetings, so they'll have members of the public and experts come in remotely, because it...
Guest 5 - 0:24:09
I don't think you can just have members of the public logging on.
Guest 11 - 0:24:14
Guest 1 - 0:24:17
It depends, if they're part of asking questions then you can, but again they have the strict
hard job and you can keep them out of the way.
And I think for most of the time that works pretty well, but I'd say most of them don't
love it when public come in remotely only because it adds another level of something
else to go wrong because you don't know what you know you don't know what it's
more that you know the tech on the air send you have no idea what self that
Gorach is gonna work with with your mentors you provided the laptops and you
Guest 3 - 0:24:50
Guest 11 - 0:24:51
know it's worked and tested so yeah but you know we can just have a position
Guest 1 - 0:24:54
where people here they want to ask a question and make comments for meeting
in the public period in a meeting, but it would have to come to the table to make their comment
so as the camera could pick them up.
And they'd be limited to another one or three minutes.
And that's it.
I think that's really the way.
I mean at Baselton it used to be anybody could comment on a planning application
and they've limited that now to about five people.
Guest 13 - 0:25:27
Guest 5 - 0:25:30
and five people three minutes and you've got to submit what you're going to say
beforehand in writing. They cut it down. It depends on the council.
Guest 11 - 0:25:42
Yeah I think also the length of time for some of those were getting very very long.
Guest 6 - 0:25:47
Remember in 22 past past?
Guest 3 - 0:25:49
Guest 11 - 0:25:51
Yeah, if you've done one or nine, I understand.
Guest 1 - 0:25:57
So you gave us a price before but was that for a single L or was that for 2 L's?
That's for both.
That's for the 2 L's.
Guest 11 - 0:26:03
Apart from the 4 L's but yeah it's for everything you see in front of you.
Guest 1 - 0:26:06
And again it's up to you if you want to provide some tripods but if you want to use the tables.
Guest 11 - 0:26:15
We obviously need to talk about you afterwards.
Yeah that's fine.
Guest 1 - 0:26:18
I'll leave the cameras on and then.
Guest 11 - 0:26:21
It's only 4 hours 9 ,000 pound a year. Have I got that wrong?
Guest 1 - 0:26:24
No, it's 2 hours.
It's 2 hours, but they're version 4.
And the stream box.
Guest 10 - 0:26:27
Guest 9 - 0:26:29
And then you get...
They're version 3.
Oh, I understand.
Guest 3 - 0:26:33
So version 4, it's slightly better audio and video response, but much better video,
Guest 11 - 0:26:37
Guest 3 - 0:26:40
but the audio quality is a lot better, and how it picks up and smothers.
I'm now going to turn the audio out.
I know it's on that screen there, but it's only been a minute.
Guest 9 - 0:26:48
that's because you've got 200, is it 200 feet or something?
Oh yes, I didn't want yours in.
Yeah, it's 200 hours.
Guest 3 - 0:26:54
Guest 9 - 0:26:56
Guest 10 - 0:26:57
200 hours is fine, 200 feet might not be fair.
Reminds me, I've got to sit up, don't slouch.
Guest 6 - 0:27:05
Well you don't slouch do you?
Guest 5 - 0:27:08
You will have to actually sit up.
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Guest 13 - 0:27:14
Ed, what about people, some people have naturally got a call out voice.
Guest 5 - 0:27:19
Is there, that will be picked up as the same sum of them?
Yeah, so in there, especially if it was called auto -gain.
So if people are talking manually it will try and keep it at a certain level.
Guest 3 - 0:27:29
And if people are quiet it will raise the microphone's input to kind of keep it at a reasonable level.
And they still have to be heard in the room.
Guest 5 - 0:27:35
Guest 6 - 0:27:37
Of course they do. Some people don't pick speakers under at home.
Guest 3 - 0:27:41
Guest 11 - 0:27:43
Yeah, yeah. It does it best as it can, but I think most of the time it basically tries to balance it
to a good, the same level of outflow as it can.
I'm so interested.
I'm humbled here about it being a waste of time.
Oh, yeah.
Why are they talking?
Why don't they shut up?
Why don't we just go to a vote?
I'm going to toss up a hat.
Come in the door.
Go to a vote.
Guest 5 - 0:28:02
Somebody's coming in the door.
Well, you're not talking particularly loudly, Marie,
Guest 11 - 0:28:07
Guest 1 - 0:28:09
but it's continually picking you up and going to you.
So again, I'll lastly share that, because this is,
visible thing to you so I can send them in to this.
And then we can have a little think about it.
Guest 10 - 0:28:22
So we can then have a look as members of the public.
So what happened that video?
Guest 1 - 0:28:25
I do like the set up, I've got to admit it.
I think it's quite straightforward.
Guest 10 - 0:28:30
It is isn't it?
I have to just have it that's going to plug in the earring and plug in the head.
Plug that one in, that's it.
Guest 11 - 0:28:38
It's just like plugging a hairdryer.
Guest 1 - 0:28:40
This one, just plug it in.
It's not something we supply because it depends how old they want it to be.
Guest 11 - 0:28:47
There's a little diagram there as well in case you're familiar.
There's also a little QR code that goes to how to set up the stuff.
You couldn't come up with it, you couldn't simply go...
Guest 9 - 0:29:03
And you've also got the tech to do a tech to do the test every time when you tell it up to make sure it's okay.
Guest 11 - 0:29:09
I'm okay with IT and bits and pieces, but a lot of people aren't.
Guest 6 - 0:29:14
And with stuff going on, pressing buttons, it's not going to be the easiest thing on a troddy net.
Guest 11 - 0:29:17
Guest 6 - 0:29:22
It can't be done on a laptop, or it can't be done remotely on a laptop or something. It's got to be just that screen.
Why does it say remotely Richard? What do you mean by remotely on a laptop?
Guest 10 - 0:29:29
Guest 9 - 0:29:31
As in on a device, a laptop. So it's a chair on a laptop, it's got that in a box.
Guest 6 - 0:29:33
Guest 9 - 0:29:37
Yeah, but I quite like something which keeps it separate because Dawn had done something
on her laptop and you needed to get a presentation for planning on Tuesday.
Guest 10 - 0:29:41
Guest 9 - 0:29:43
So, you know, if somebody's pressing, if you've got something like that on a laptop, it can
Guest 10 - 0:29:49
very easily be disrupted or...
Guest 11 - 0:29:52
The limitation is that you have to be on a white white because the white surface has
Guest 3 - 0:29:58
And we know who's got access to it and we wouldn't let anybody just...
Guest 6 - 0:30:01
and if nobody would detail you on the public wifi, it doesn't matter.
Guest 11 - 0:30:04
Well, we've only got three wifi systems in a bit.
Guest 10 - 0:30:06
Guest 8 - 0:30:08
No, that's it, but basically it has to be connected to the router that's built into this box.
Guest 3 - 0:30:10
It could be connected to the answer point.
Guest 11 - 0:30:14
So, if it was a separate tablet that we, or whoever, provided, it could always be...
This has basically got a router in it that you can connect that tablet to.
Guest 3 - 0:30:22
Whereas if it's your council laptop, if the internet goes into this...
Guest 11 - 0:30:26
So if there was a tablet, it could control...
Yeah, as far as I'm aware, I haven't chased them about.
Guest 3 - 0:30:33
It's another bit of a pick, we don't want to know any more.
Guest 11 - 0:30:35
Something else to lose or down.
Yeah, exactly.
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Guest 1 - 0:30:40
Guest 11 - 0:30:42
Guest 1 - 0:30:44
Guest 6 - 0:30:46
I'm just thinking, something on the table is easier to deal with when you're at a meeting, not all of a sudden you're looking at the street.
Guest 1 - 0:30:48
Guest 6 - 0:30:50
But I think it's really good that the clerk sets it up and then the chairman just controls it as part of the meeting, just going along the meeting.
Guest 3 - 0:31:03
I mean yeah it's completely up to you. I will ask about the tablet because I know it has been mentioned by a handful of people.
Because they want that it's more that they didn't want it up on the desk they wanted it out of the way.
Guest 11 - 0:31:09
Guest 3 - 0:31:15
And then it was a clean and meeting space. So it was definitely something I couldn't remember.
Guest 6 - 0:31:18
Even on my end, why would the box on the under the down there come to the table?
Guest 1 - 0:31:25
the only difference I would make is I put it on the trolley but I'd actually have it tipped slightly so as the screen was pointing upwards
Guest 6 - 0:31:35
I was just thinking moving the tape apart, having the trolley on its end and you take it like a small bottle
Guest 12 - 0:31:42
I think it's just pointing straight at me
Guest 5 - 0:31:44
I think much the same as having it on a desk then.
Guest 11 - 0:31:51
But you just plug that in, you don't have to charge it or anything do you?
No, it's not the right thing.
Guest 9 - 0:31:56
Guest 10 - 0:31:59
So we don't have to worry about, like if they were wireless mics we'd have to worry about making sure they were charged.
Yeah, everything's plug powered.
Guest 12 - 0:32:07
Guest 11 - 0:32:09
Guest 3 - 0:32:11
yeah I said I mean if I see you have got a way of putting a hard line in it's a
Guest 9 - 0:32:17
Guest 3 - 0:32:19
recommendation I'd make just to keep it would be my recommendation if they can
but it might be it might be easy to do there might already be a cable that
they've run that they tend to do that when they're doing it might be a cable
Guest 11 - 0:32:30
Yeah, if not, if they can find one of those Wi -Fi's, there's got to be some for you.
They didn't just bury the wires in the concrete.
I think this is all computer -forward, so you can get them.
Guest 3 - 0:32:42
Guest 11 - 0:32:48
But as I said, it's worth asking, we can send them over the streaming requirement document that we have that says the minimum uploads.
Guest 13 - 0:32:54
Guest 1 - 0:32:56
That's not paintings in the concrete. That's not satin legs.
That's always the fun.
Send them the treatment requirements for what we ask for, the minimum of the things.
If there was anything information about where that's going to, the service it's going to, and how the street works, absolutely fine.
and anxiety will have questions about how they want that to work and what it's doing
and whether it's got security going and all that sort of stuff.
So we're happy to provide that before we get it on their networks.
They will know what to know about it.
If it's going one of their Wi -Fi's, then they'll want to know about it.
Guest 3 - 0:33:35
Guest 11 - 0:33:37
Guest 3 - 0:33:38
Guest 6 - 0:33:40
Can the live broadcast be mirrored onto say YouTube?
Guest 11 - 0:33:49
If we wanted to make it a bit more accessible on a more common, most of the other spokesystems,
Guest 6 - 0:33:52
Guest 3 - 0:33:54
Guest 6 - 0:33:56
if we wanted it on a more accessible place, I mean I watch mine on the telly, I don't do it on the computer.
But you watch YouTube on the telly?
Yeah, so lots of people do that, my vulture watches as much YouTube as he does real telly on his TV.
Guest 11 - 0:34:12
Guest 6 - 0:34:14
So watching meetings is easier on the telly because you need a comfortable chair, you can do those if you need to.
Rather than sat at a computer, which people do all day, just having another hour on the computer.
Guest 9 - 0:34:23
Guest 11 - 0:34:24
Guest 6 - 0:34:27
It is possible, it's an extra bit of work to do for the doer, setting it up.
You basically have the URL up and change.
Is it done from this end, or is it done behind the scenes?
it's done fun seeing so when you're setting up your meeting where you add
Guest 3 - 0:34:45
your resources or any agenda items there is a social tab right and then I'll show it to you.
Guest 6 - 0:34:48
So what are you saying, you'll be live streaming it in two places?
Guest 9 - 0:34:56
Guest 6 - 0:34:59
Yeah, some go onto multiple three four five various channels.
Guest 9 - 0:35:04
So you're not thinking about, because this stores it doesn't it, it stores this
that we call this, and you wouldn't just copy it over onto YouTube the next day.
Guest 6 - 0:35:11
So, you can do it, YouTube would be stored in two places, it would be viewed and stored in two places.
Yeah, it would work to copy it across the next day.
If I'm honest, it's...
I would just do it at the same time.
Guest 11 - 0:35:22
Yeah, you can do it at the same time. Basically it will stream to our servers and things and then we push it over to YouTube.
So, if you want to do that, there's a few options but they're all essentially the same thing.
Guest 13 - 0:35:34
Um, that's string 2A, which is dominated by the class.
Yeah, that's because it does the test a bit.
I'll show you the tail Hamlet's one so that you can see it.
Let's go with this one.
Social.
Guest 2 - 0:36:07
Guest 8 - 0:36:09
You put the stream key in the URL which is what YouTube, when you're booking it, you
can put that in there.
Guest 6 - 0:36:13
Once this is in here and you've saved it, whenever you start it on here, as long as
Guest 3 - 0:36:19
Guest 11 - 0:36:20
set it up in YouTube to start automatically, it will. We would say if you pause for a long time,
Guest 3 - 0:36:27
Guest 11 - 0:36:33
it sometimes can think it's stopped and it will stop broadcast. So there's a few things between
Guest 3 - 0:36:35
the two if you're doing restreaming that you know we can't be responsible if the stream Q &A
Guest 11 - 0:36:43
rail if you press start and it doesn't work we can't really help you here we can help you to
Guest 6 - 0:36:46
certain extent you can recopy it in and try again but at the end of the day it should be
in its use, stitched together, so it's a problem. I'd say at the start you might want to
Guest 11 - 0:36:57
just leave it simple and then give it a go for a meeting where you're feeling
confident that someone's got it all set up in place and again you can create a hidden meeting on YouTube and on this so you could give that a go.
It's definitely seen, what's that mean?
Guest 6 - 0:37:12
Yeah, so it's one that wouldn't be...
It could be seen by the party.
Guest 11 - 0:37:14
Guest 5 - 0:37:17
Guest 11 - 0:37:19
You could record videos for yourself.
Guest 3 - 0:37:22
You could get into your YouTube and Cheryl can see it.
You can have ones that are just recorded for yourself on YouTube that you're going to publish later or do something with.
Guest 16 - 0:37:31
But you could do the same on ours.
Guest 3 - 0:37:33
It would be easy for internal training or things like that.
Guest 11 - 0:37:37
Guest 12 - 0:37:41
So you could do that and then make sure that the key treatment is all working before you do the public, but that's completely up to you.
Guest 6 - 0:37:42
Guest 5 - 0:37:48
David, can you refresh my memory how members of the public look at those, they're still not your system, how do the members of the public...
Because we said the link would be on the Town Council website.
Like our list of the journalists.
Guest 8 - 0:37:59
Guest 9 - 0:38:00
Or as with YouTube, they wouldn't need that link.
Guest 5 - 0:38:02
They could go to YouTube directly.
They can watch it, I know.
Guest 1 - 0:38:08
So what I'm saying is, you have to be open to more people if it were on YouTube.
Yes, to an extent. If they're looking to see you on YouTube, I think it's easy.
Guest 5 - 0:38:23
It's so easy, because I look at a lot of the Fazlton meetings on YouTube.
You wouldn't know if you were in a town council meeting just by going on YouTube though, would you?
Guest 10 - 0:38:30
have to go onto our website to see the agenda and see the dates.
Guest 5 - 0:38:35
No, you'd just see our channel and you'd see them all there.
The channel on YouTube.
Guest 1 - 0:38:39
It wouldn't necessarily be on YouTube the week before the meeting.
No, it would be nothing.
Where as it would be on our website.
No, but you can at that evening. You know there's a meeting with the town council and you can go onto YouTube and watch it.
I think Baden and I have got about two weeks worth pre - and it says coming soon.
Guest 10 - 0:38:57
Yeah, and then they'll turn live. Yeah, they put their codes because you've got to get a code, a unique code for each one
Guest 6 - 0:39:06
So they've got that unique code set up on the diary. So when it's going live it changes it from
Guest 8 - 0:39:14
Station to station to live. That's because that's the only channel they use. Yeah
Guest 6 - 0:39:16
Guest 1 - 0:39:18
We set it up in this system and it sends it out when it happens
so there wouldn't be a pre, it wouldn't be pre -setup because we wouldn't have to.
Guest 11 - 0:39:37
Guest 1 - 0:39:39
So yeah there's a few, I mean we come up pretty high when you start search for meetings,
if you're just you're looking generally for council meetings if people are looking for where they
Guest 6 - 0:39:46
Guest 7 - 0:39:48
would find it, obviously YouTube people scan through it and watch loads and loads of different
Guest 1 - 0:39:56
things, so if you want it to be on there that's fine you can go through and do it.
So you are in your search with Google as well.
Having the office in for the first.
Guest 7 - 0:40:04
Guest 3 - 0:40:06
Guest 11 - 0:40:09
And if they specifically say Meetings Live or webcasts or broadcast or anything like that, we come up underneath the council that it's next to.
Guest 1 - 0:40:13
So, I'd say you don't actually know the stats on the traffic for different councils.
Guest 11 - 0:40:18
Guest 1 - 0:40:20
Guest 11 - 0:40:23
Guest 3 - 0:40:25
A lot of them come from their mod -gov pages or their CMS pages that they have, but all
Guest 11 - 0:40:27
of that is through the Canvas websites.
The traffic of viewership, where they actually watch stuff, YouTube's will be...they don't
Guest 3 - 0:40:37
actually tend to be that on, at least on some meetings, they kind of build up over the week
Guest 11 - 0:40:41
because people find it later once it's been suggested to them.
Guest 3 - 0:40:48
But I'd say for a lot of people if they're looking specifically for a council meeting
they tend to go to the council websites first before going for it.
Obviously you guys know the meetings that you want to on for the past year.
Guest 11 - 0:41:00
What we're thinking of is that this would take quite a while to take off that people
would start viewing it.
Guest 5 - 0:41:06
They're not going to suddenly view it in their hoards.
it'd probably take a couple of years to bed in, wouldn't it?
And also I think your point about keeping it simple to start off with and then adding
YouTube in when we were conversant with the system is probably a good idea.
Guest 11 - 0:41:26
As you said, everything on here and on the Microsite, you can download those videos,
they're yours.
They're stored, not only are they stored on here because it records them at the same time
as streaming them, but they're available on your site for you to download if you want
so if you wanted to start doing that as a start point and doing it on YouTube
uploading it after the meeting then that's absolutely fine so you keep on
Guest 3 - 0:41:48
Guest 11 - 0:41:50
your site for 12 months yes yeah yeah so anything we want from 12 months we have
Guest 7 - 0:41:58
Guest 1 - 0:42:00
to be put on YouTube yeah so we've got that 12 month period but I think the idea
simultaneously putting them on to both sites is a simple way because then
there's no more work. So by doing it the way you suggested, the way you should do it.
Yeah, yeah.
Guest 7 - 0:42:20
There's whole knowledge base articles, sorry, we have a set of PDFs that you can have a
Guest 1 - 0:42:22
look at as a client, how to do lots of different stuff, and there's all the information about
the backend of the microsite, how to do anything you want from the streaming zone to adding
Guest 11 - 0:42:32
gender, item status, location and stuff, it's all in there and so I wouldn't worry too
Guest 7 - 0:42:36
much about how to do it in terms of what you need to get ready but I could always send you the
Guest 3 - 0:42:41
streaming to YouTube article and then you've got it and have a look through
Guest 13 - 0:42:47
Guest 11 - 0:42:49
how the steps to do it. It's fairly obvious that the system's well thought through if you just look at the boxes.
Guest 5 - 0:42:53
Guest 1 - 0:42:55
Guest 11 - 0:42:58
yes the point in this one is that in the meeting room there's little to do as possible
Guest 1 - 0:43:03
yeah so it can be made really quickly needs link and yeah the microsite although
Guest 7 - 0:43:09
you might spend a bit of time doing the initial setup stuff and choosing how you
Guest 11 - 0:43:15
want things to display the colours mostly it wants to set up after the first
Guest 1 - 0:43:19
few times it will kind of become something that just happens in the
background as it takes you know I'm guessing you do your agendas a couple
weeks before week before yeah so at the end of like once a week you can just do
this is when we'll update the agenda items on the microsite on a particular day or after you've
as one one thing yeah yeah the agenda there is only to give people the ability
Guest 8 - 0:44:04
to only look at the courses and yeah of course yeah so yeah go direct to that
Guest 11 - 0:44:06
Guest 1 - 0:44:09
just look at that nothing else yeah we don't need to do that that what you're
Guest 9 - 0:44:12
saying yeah well you don't need to do it no I mean it's a nice to have yeah
Guest 1 - 0:44:14
that's what I mean but that's something we could add to as we get more constant
Guest 10 - 0:44:20
Guest 1 - 0:44:23
So the first meeting, the agenda item is meeting, effectively.
Guest 9 - 0:44:32
Well our meetings very often aren't more than an hour long, are they? So it would be easy enough, so you can go through when you're watching it afterwards can't you?
Guest 10 - 0:44:37
Guest 9 - 0:44:39
Yeah. Find a certain point. Yeah so they're not, it's not that complicated.
Guest 1 - 0:44:42
Guest 11 - 0:44:44
Yeah. Yeah. That's it, hopefully. You can make it as complicated as you like basically.
Guest 1 - 0:44:53
Some people are really confident and they really want the IT person is the one running it and they're happy to do loads of stuff, maybe because they're trying to fiddle with different people.
Yeah, we don't have an IT person.
Guest 10 - 0:45:07
Whereas other ones, they have one of the two people who are actually clocking or doing something else and then we just want to press it and then it goes and does whatever it needs to do.
Guest 1 - 0:45:12
Guest 8 - 0:45:14
Guest 1 - 0:45:16
That's great, I've actually never done anything like that.
Any more questions?
Guest 10 - 0:45:21
I'm going to close that down.
Webcast Finished - 0:45:26
Now, if you accidentally hit stop instead of pause during a meeting, if you just hit no to publishing,
it just means there will be two halves of the video that, again, there's no charge for this.
We can put it together.
So it's not the end of the world, you just have to tell us that it's been done.
It happens from time to time.
Basically the cause, why you're forced into meeting, taking a break, private member session.